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Bell · ÊÂÑ

Hi all,

I’m very happy to inform you that we have opened the PT Flight School forum in English. I hope this new beginning will give all of you new opportunities for improvement of your practical skills in piloting such beautiful model of legendary Soviet aircraft Tu-154 that has been perfectly implemented by Project Tupolev team.

Before I’ll guide you through the content of this forum, I would thank all of you who was assisting me in opening this forum, and special thank to Belkin and ha5mvo for assistance in the Flight Manual translation.

Ok… On this forum besides of learning to fly the aircraft we will discuss about all the things related to flying the PT Tu-154, flight operations, aerodynamics and etc. One important thing I want to highlight, on this forum we will not consider aircraft systems operation assuming that you are already able to operate all the systems skilfully. For new comers of PT forum who unfamiliar with systems operation, it is recommended to read the Tutorial document and get some initial practice to operate aircraft systems before you join Flight School.

Link: www.pro-team.co.uk/files/products/PT_Tu154B2_engl.pdf

The initial Flight Course which we start from is applicable only for PT Tu-154B2 v. 9.6.1 and consists of theoretical and practical part. Before you start to perform practical lessons you have to study the theoretical part by reading English version of the Flight Manual.

Link: www.protu-154.com/files/Tu-154B2_Flight_Manual_Eng.rar

After you read the Flight Manual you can start to perform the flight exercises.

Link: www.protu-154.com/files/Tu-154B2_Flight_Exercises_Eng.rar

There are 6 exercises and they all relate to normal flight operations. Since they compiled by increasing complexity you have to start with the first exercise and proceed with the next one after you passed previuos.
Full SID/STAR charts for these exercises you can download here: http://www.avsim.ru/files.phtml?action=download&id=6728&hl=Jeppesen (press “Ñêà÷àòü” icon highlighted with blue).

The practical exercises should be performed with standard “Clear Sky” option in FS weather settings (no wind, no clouds, great visibility, default temperature, and etc.). No weather programs allowed.

Each time before takeoff you will need to switch on MSRP (right upper corner of F/E panel) for recording your flight data and switch off it after landing. MSRP records are kept in FS2004 Folder/Gauges/Tu-154_cfg/MSRP/file name.txt. You should create an archive with your flight record file, open your own topic “Flight School Nickname” on this forum and attach your archive to your post. In your post you also have to indicate the exercise number and provide a value of the following flight parameters: takeoff weight, landing weight, Center of Gravity and any other at your discretion.

Usage of KLN-90B when flying is not forbidden but we strongly recommend you to use another onboard navigation aids (VOR, NVU, RSBN, ARK) depending from purpose of the exercise.

The only instructors and supervisors listed below are permitted to analyze the flight data publicly and leave posts in the pilot’s topic except the pilot himself. There are two supervisors and five certified PT instructors: denokan, blck, FireFly, vkononov, Johny, Dallas, Bell.

Any vacant instructor makes analysis of your flight data and provides feedback in your topic. There are two results available: you passed exercise or you failed. In case you failed you need to fly the exercise over again taking into account instructor’s comments. In case one instructor responded that you passed the exercise, another instructor should confirm or reject that result within two days providing reasonable arguments for rejection. After both instructors confirmed that you passed, you can proceed with the next exercise.

Probably, that’s all I wanted to say now. Even I have missed something we clarify it further…

I wish you good luck, and wait for your questions and flight records.

Ap0pHiS · ÊÂÑ

I can only say one word : WONDERFUL!

Now, let's go to work Õèòðûé

BrzI · Êóðñàíò

How do you evaluate the results ? Can we do that ourselves ?

Thanks

Bell · ÊÂÑ

We analize your flights "manually" using MSRP analyzer, i.e. we look through graphics and tables to see which procedures or task requirements were executed correctly or not. Here is the link to that program http://www.protu-154.com/util.html (Fast Flight Facts îò Fire Fly ). Also for ex 2-6 we draw track files.

Of course you can make such analysis by yourself, but there could be a lot of hidden piloting features which are not described in the Flight Manual only. PT Tu-154 aerodynamics is implemented like aerodymanics of real Tu-154, systems of the model operate like systems of real Tu-154, and sometimes students can not uderstand a reason of their piloting mistakes if they are not familiar with aerodynamic specifics of Tu-154 and its construction.

As you can see, at this flight school your flights could be analyzed by certified instructors only. All instructors had passed through double examination, including examination to the real pilots (Denokan, blck). After that, we organized the Flight School for Russian speaking and later for English speaking pilots with the purpose to share our knowledge of proper piloting the PT models. More over, all the aerodynamics books as well as books about aicraft construction are in Russian, and it will not be convient for non-Russian speakers to read these books. Therefore, you will not bother us if we do analysis of your flights, because we here to teach you piloting and share our knowledge of aerodymanics and other items related to real Tu-154 and its FS models.

2 ALL.

If you are not ready to pass through exercises, you can simply share any MSRP file of your flight. We will make the analisys and highlight your mistakes describing reasons of these mistakes. This could be applied for both, B2 and M models. Just open topic "Flights Nickname" in this forum and upload a file. Õèòðûé

BrzI · Êóðñàíò

Thanks Alexey

WalterLeo · ÊÂÑ

Hi Bell!

Trying to fly exercise 1 I found some things out:
The VOR at UHHH doesnt work.

The circuit itselfs is much wider than a circuit in a B 727. 4km againt 8 km

Look at this:
http://www.boeing-727.com/Data/fly%20odds/visualapproachtip.html

Is that a question of how the Tu is built or is it a way of how flying in Russia is being trained.

Different is also the early flap and slat retraction at 200 m QFE and the bank-limit of 15 deg while flaps are out (727: 30 deg max turn to final with landing-flaps deployed).

The MRSP data of one of my tries ill send later on.

Regards

Walter